that are out there. >> now, some of the bears are saying -- i hate to focus on the bear. the stock went down today and to get the ceo on, to answer these things is a lot better than just saying, hey, listen, when is obama going to create jobs or is romney going to create jobs because we don't know that. they did say, bears are concerned that the outsourcing payroll market is saturated and that's why you are focused on the ancillary businesses that you are hiring for. >> we just don't see it that way. even with low in business starts, there are 750,000 new businesses started every year. when you see that, half of our sales come from new businesses. once you get into the ecosystem, get on payroll, we can sell you all of the other products. we feel good about paychex. >> i have a couple businesses that i'm involved in where i use paychex. it's amazing, all of the other small business people that i talk to say, look, i don't want to hire anybody right now. i'm talking about somebody who's got some means, who wants to hire two or three people. i'm just stopping that. is that part of the problem?